KWS kill poachers

Mon, 2010-11-01 14:06 by jamie1990 · Forum/category:

The BBC have reported that the Kenyan Wildlife Service have killed poachers after they were discovered removing tusks from an elephant.
Full story can be accessed here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-11666641

As an Asian, I guess I could speak "authoritatively"on this

Fri, 2010-11-05 01:46 by Her Lao

And while I grew up and have lived here more than 3/4 of my life here in the USA, I hear stories of ivory and see the typical Asians twisted need to have things made of ivory all the time... And, in fact, it is a very easy thing to "understand" it, even if (intellectually) you wonder why people do the things they do, want the things they want: the rarer, the more scarce, a certain really exquisite, hard-to-get commodity is, the more/the higher the demand is for such a commodity.

(It plugs very well into the "law of supply and demand" as well as the HIGHLY popular saying of "Let the markets decide," the mentra of a certain group of people in a certain political spectrum...)

For example, you could drop a kilo of the best, warehouse-grown, genetically altered, higly potent cannabus, OR cocaine, or cigarettes, or meth... by my front step, every week --- with a note saying: "use whatever you want, jus leave a certain amount of money next to it, for weekly collection" --- and when you come back (assuming no one else take them), all the drugs would still be there... and after a while, you'd stop delivering them to my doorstep. Such drugs just don't make me tick; I don't use them. I know chemicals and biology and how the two interact. If most Americans lived like I do, there'd be no need for "war on drugs."

But that's not true for most folks...

The USA ... as you can see..... can not simply go down to Colombia and other Latin and South American countries and "declar war" on drug smugglers, "war or drugs," and spray millions of native plants like the Cocoa or cannabis. Such plants are indeginous to South America. The only way to stop drugs is to NOT USE THEM. When Americans use 80-90% of the world's opium, cocaine, weeds... guess what? Those highly demanded drugs WILL BE SUPPLIED. But we DO go down to Latin & S. America and spray millions of tons of chemicals on native plants down there... simply because we can't or won't stop using/DEMANDING drugs...

Ditto where IVORY is concerned.

Asians and Arabs need to stop making ornamental items using ivory. Until they stop demanding ivory --- whose availability has declined close 90% the last 100 years, since the large animals sporting ivory tusks have plummeted about 90% since the 1800s, making IVORY's VALUE going up exponentially! --- poachers will never stop hunting elephants, for ivory, or rhinos for horns,or tigers for skin, bones, and other parts...

Only broad, introspective, well grounded education can change people's thinking and their habits. TELLING Asians they "must stop demanding ivory" is like telling Americans and Europeans, about 10-12% of the world's population, NOT to use over 50% of the world's total energy out-put. Both sets of people (Asians and the affluent Westerners) think they "have a right" to what they are used to, what they could get and are getting...whether from the wild/nature or from others.... Only a good education which allow people to reflect broadly, soundly, would help us save ourselves and our world and its animals...

We, who are living today, should be extremely appreciative of these majestic creatures we still have among us, although most of them have been marginalized to be qualify for the "endangered species" list. To borrow a phrase from Henry David Thorea: --- we today are truly living in "nick of time" where the world's most majestic creatures like the lions, tigers, cheetahs, leopards, elephants, giraffes, whales, wolves, wild dogs, rhinos, indris, etc. are concerned. Most of them will not see the next century.

The larger the animals are and the more wild space they need, the higher their chances of extinction, when homo sapiens population plateaus between 10-14 Billion in the next 50 to 100 years... Large, global statistical modeling of trajectories for a certain set of phenomena are sometimes hard to change, even if we know VERY WELL the variables of why/how they behave the way they do, when we graph them, say, as a sine wave...

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